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720 Zone's comparison of all 54 Forever maps with Classic

The Deadwind Pass map from the WoW Forever client

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720 Zone flipped between every Classic Era map and its WoW Forever version, 54 in all, from whole new zones down to a single flight-path marker. The new zones, areas and dungeons they point to, such as Riverglades, New Avalon and Karazhan Crypts, are in our data. We have Forever's drawn maps but not Classic's to set beside them, so the smaller marker changes stay the creator's own reading.

This is a community video by 720 Zone, not Blizzard, so everything in it is the creator's own finding. We checked each claim against the Forever beta client (build 1.60.1.70532) and the site's map, area and dungeon data, and the only numbers here come from the client or the video.

The video flips between each Classic Era map and its Forever version: 40 standard zone maps, four brand-new Forever zones, six capital cities and four PvP maps, 54 in all. The table checks every place it names.

I Compared All 54 WoW Forever Maps to Classic, a video by 720 Zone
I Compared All 54 WoW Forever Maps to Classic (720 Zone on YouTube)

The short version

  • The big additions the video shows line up with zones and areas the client already has: Riverglades is a new Forever zone, New Avalon is an area in Eastern Plaguelands, Whispering Forest is an area in Tirisfal Glades, and Summit of Eternity sits atop the rebuilt Mount Hyjal.
  • The dungeons the maps hint at are in our data too: Karazhan Crypts in Deadwind Pass and Excavation Site: Wetlands.
  • Many changes are tiny: removed flight-path markers (Thorium Point, Talrendis Point, Chillwind Camp), removed PvP cave entrances, and new cave and path markers. We have no Classic maps to compare against, so these stay the creator's reading.
  • A possible Karazhan raid is the creator's guess. Two other hints are real: the client has the Manor Mistmantle dungeon in Duskwood, and Blizzard announced the Barrow Deeps raid on 20 October.

Claim by claim

ClaimThe video saysThe client saysVerdict
Badlands passA new mountain pass added in the south, heading towards Redridge and the new Riverglades zone.The client has Badlands and confirms Riverglades as a new Forever zone. The drawn pass isn't in our data.Zone and destination confirmed; marker not in our data
Skywatcher Plateau, MulgoreA new Horde Skyborn arrival area in the north-west, and a pass through to Desolace.The client has Mulgore and a new area there named Skywatcher Plateau.Area confirmed in the client
Whispering Forest, Tirisfal GladesNew content west of Deathknell, with a town of Shadow Veil and Bandaren Keep.The client has areas named Whispering Forest, Shadowvale and Bandarion Keep, the places the captions call Shadow Veil and Bandaren Keep.Area confirmed in the client
Westfall markersThe inn icon at Sentinel Hill removed, a cave marker added for the Deadmines exit.The client has Westfall and a Sentinel Hill area. The drawn markers aren't in our data.Zone and area confirmed; markers not in our data
Gilneas wall, Silverpine ForestA redesigned Greymane Wall in-game, with Gilneas behind it, but the drawn map unchanged.The client has Silverpine Forest and new areas named Gilneas, Ruins of Gilneas and Gilneas City.Zone and Gilneas areas confirmed
Mistmantle manor dungeon, DuskwoodA future five-player dungeon in the north-east, not yet on the map.The client has Duskwood and a new five-player dungeon there, Manor Mistmantle.Dungeon confirmed in the client
Southshore dock, HillsbradA new dock at Southshore, with a boat from Stormwind on to Auberdine.The client has Hillsbrad Foothills and a Southshore area. We can't test the boat.Area confirmed; the boat we can't test
Dalaran rebuiltThe shield dropped and the full city added to the Eastern Kingdoms map.The client has the new City of Dalaran dungeon and a Dalaran City map.Dungeon and map confirmed in the client
Shen'Dralas path, DesolaceA new path from the Valley of Bones down into the new Shen'Dralas zone.The client has a Valley of Bones area and the new Shen'dralas zone and its map.Area and new zone confirmed
New Avalon, Eastern PlaguelandsA large new area added behind Tyr's Hand in the east, shifting the whole map.The client has an area named New Avalon.Area confirmed in the client
Barrow Deeps gate, WinterspringA new gate, one of three entrances to a 10-man raid called Barrow Deeps.The client has Winterspring, and Blizzard announced the Barrow Deeps on 20 October as a 10-player raid with an entrance through Winterspring (our write-up).Raid confirmed by Blizzard; the gate we can't check
Karazhan Crypts, Deadwind PassThe map makes them wonder about Karazhan content in Forever.The client has Karazhan Crypts, a five-player dungeon, and a Deadwind Pass entry.Dungeon confirmed in the client
Shaper Terrace, north of Un'GoroA launch dungeon built in the unfinished land north of Un'Goro, with a raid to follow.The client has an area named The Shaper's Terrace in Un'Goro Crater, and Blizzard lists the Shaper's Terrace among its nine new dungeons, for levels 58 to 60.Area and dungeon confirmed; the raid is the creator's guess
Excavation Site, WetlandsA new dungeon in the same spot, not yet drawn on the map.The client has Excavation Site: Wetlands, a five-player dungeon.Dungeon confirmed in the client
Nefarian's balcony, Blackrock MountainThe rebuilt mountain no longer shows the balcony from the world; submitted as a bug.This is a model claim we cannot check from our map data.Can't check: a model claim
Riverglades townsBoulder Rock for the Horde, Farhold Keep for the Alliance, and a Blackmaw Hold dungeon.The client confirms Riverglades as a new Forever zone, with areas named Farholde Keep (also an Alliance flight point) and Bolder'ok.Zone and two towns confirmed
Summit of Eternity, Mount HyjalA new raid at the top of a redesigned Hyjal, past a redone Nordrassil.The client has an area named Summit of Eternity.Area confirmed in the client
Stormwind HarborThe west side rebuilt with a port and a boat to Kalimdor.The client has the Stormwind City map and a new area in it named Stormwind Harbor.Area confirmed; the port we can't test
Winter Warsong GulchThe battleground reskinned in snow and renamed, with the drawn map unchanged.The client has Warsong Gulch. The reskin we can't test.Battleground confirmed; the reskin we can't test
Icewing Cavern, Alterac ValleyThe map cave moved, though in-game it is where it always was.The client has an Icewing Cavern area. The drawn map art isn't in our data.Area confirmed; the map change we can't test
Thorium Point marker, Searing GorgeIts flight-path and quest-hub marker removed from the Forever map.The client has Searing Gorge and a Thorium Point area. The removed marker isn't in our data.Area confirmed; the marker not in our data
Revantusk Village, The HinterlandsIts indicator removed from the Forever map, though the village is still in game.The client has The Hinterlands and Revantusk Village, as a town and a Horde flight point.Zone and village confirmed
Ruins of Stardust pond, AshenvaleA pond marker added on the way down to the ruins.The client has a Ruins of Stardust area. The added marker isn't in our data.Area confirmed; the marker not in our data

Every place the video names, checked against the client's zones, areas and dungeons.

New zones and areas in the client

Riverglades is a brand-new Forever zone in our data, and the client has its new towns too: Farholde Keep, an area with an Alliance flight point, and an area named Bolder'ok, which is likely the creator's "Boulder Rock". The rebuilt Mount Hyjal has an area named Summit of Eternity, which the creator shows as a new raid at the top. Eastern Plaguelands gains an area named New Avalon and Tirisfal Glades one named Whispering Forest, both where the video points. Skywatcher Plateau in Mulgore, Dalaran (as the new City of Dalaran dungeon), Stormwind Harbor and the Shen'dralas, Zephras Isle and Darkspear Islands maps are all in the client as well.

Dungeons the maps point to

Two dungeons the creator flags are in the client. Karazhan Crypts is a five-player dungeon tied to Deadwind Pass, which also has its own dungeon entry, and Excavation Site: Wetlands is a five-player dungeon in the spot the video marks in Wetlands.

A level 60 Karazhan raid and a raid to follow the Shaper's Terrace are the creator's guesses from the maps, and nothing in our client data confirms either. The other future content the video points to is real: the client has the Manor Mistmantle dungeon in Duskwood and an area named The Shaper's Terrace, and Blizzard has announced the Shaper's Terrace dungeon (levels 58 to 60) and the 10-player Barrow Deeps raid.

The small marker changes

Most of the video is small stuff: a removed flight-path marker at Thorium Point in Searing Gorge, at Talrendis Point in Azshara and at Chillwind Camp in Western Plaguelands; removed PvP cave entrances in The Barrens and Arathi Basin; a removed Revantusk Village indicator in The Hinterlands; and an added pond marker in Ashenvale. The areas the creator names, such as Thorium Point, the Ruins of Stardust and Icewing Cavern in Alterac Valley, do exist in the client. We have no Classic Era maps to set beside Forever's, so whether a marker was added or removed rests on the creator's own reading.

What nobody can test yet

The creator calls Shen'dralas a level 38 to 40 zone, which would put it above the beta's level 30 cap (the client has no zone levels). The Mount Hyjal, Karazhan, Barrow Deeps and Un'Goro content the video points to is future or unreleased, so it can't be reached in the beta either.

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